Check out this long term review of the Harley Davidson Stage 2 upgrade that has been on the 2021 Road Glide Special for over 6,000 miles now. I cover my initial thoughts around doing a Stage 2 upgrade, what components I used on this build, how the bike has performed and a few surprises that I have encountered. Please like, share, comment and subscribe. When you do subscribe, leave a comment below stating "I subscribed" so I can reach out and thank you for supporting the channel. Ride safe and enjoy! Rick HDVIBE
I have a 23 Road Glide ST. I went all Sreaming Eagle all the way with the pipes, keeping the stock headpiece. I put the Harley 462 cam along with the Screaming Eagle tappets, cam plate and oil pump. I experienced smoother torque at the low end and at 3500 RPM this bike turns into a rocket all the way to redline. It has been nothing but smiles. Improved sound with a nice lope without excessive sound. I also have the SE Pro Street Tuner along with the SE Smart Tune Pro. My fuel economy went from around 45 to around 42. You are my go-to Harley accessory channel. Keep up the great work>
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I've been contemplating putting the 462 cam in my 2023 ST. Sounds like a great option. Thanks again for the kind words and rise safe. ✌️👊👍
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Done the same upgrade on my 2018 RKS and so happy with the increased power. Done only 2k plus miles on it but so far so good. Thanks for sharing your experience and glad that I made the right choice of investment.
Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm sure you will be happy with that set up. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Great video, I have a 2018 Ultra Classic with the 107 engine. I added the Cobra pro chamber head pipe, SE Oil pump, SE 447 Cam, and Rinehart DBX 45s. The Stage 2 has been an awesome addition to my touring bike. The extra passing power and overall performance has not disappointed. And of course the sound is amazing now. I’m not sure if I will go with a Stage 3 later, but I am definitely very happy with the Stage 2 upgrade and can see myself keeping it for the long haul life of my bike. 👍😁
Thanks for watching and commenting with your experience. Sounds like a great set up. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Thanks James for watching and commenting. It's never an easy decision but I'm very pleased with the route I went on the RGS. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
Thanks Darrell for watching and commenting. It's been a great upgrade for sure. Thanks for your continued support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
I defiantly get wanting to stay HD due to warranty especially if you got the extended. Other school of thought that says if you’re spending that kind of $, don’t put HD stuff back in there. I pretty much said F my warranty and did a Wood 22XE, S&S 55mm ported manifold, S&S cam plate and oil pump, and 5.5 injectors. 22 Road King Special. Love it, making about 120HP and 130 TQ and same gas mileage. I actually have to downshift a bit more to really get her into her power but I actually like being a bit more involved. She liked high RPM before but she LOVES high RPM’s now. So I’ve changed the way I ride her a bit. I keep her around 3K pretty much all the time to access that power. But I hit the throttle and I forget she weighs 800 lbs.
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You should still get good gas mileage. My stage I was getting 265 a tank. Now with my stage4 128 kit I’m getting 235-240 a tank. You’re going to love that torque
Thanks for watching and commenting. I haven't noticed an increase in heat coming off the engine. After I changed the headpipe and with a proper air fuel mixture the bike is not noticeable hot...I don't notice any heat difference between stock and cammed. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️
I went to a full stage 2 Fueling Camchest on my TC103....Best money i ever spent...It woke my Bike up so much...I think Guys that are worried about losing gas mileage and the Bike being to loud are nitpicking...My advice to them is dont do it if your worried about that....But if you want the most out of your stock engine?,....What are you waiting for?....PS...I just did it in the 1st week in April and i already have 4K on it...
@@bradlozano2571 Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation. They definitely are fun to ride after the upgraded cam. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Add the Harley Smart Tune Pro. You’ll go from 12mm to 18mm O2 sensors. I have the same tab performance head pipe. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
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When you refer to auto tuning, are you using the SMART tune feature using the SE Street Tuner? (I am assuming you still have the narrow band O2 sensors installed).
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes I am referring to smart tune sessions using the narrow band o2 sensors. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️
Not sure whether you can answer this question on the Smart tune option. If I have stored multiple runs when gathering data and select say all the last rides and generate the optimized Smart tune VE data for the front and rear cylinders, how does the algorithm know how to select the best VE values from the multiple files. The other question relates to whether Smart tune only collects VE data when running in closed loop mode or does it also take into account the VE values when operating in open loop mode? Thank you.
@schachat01 I'll give you the answers that I think I know. If you stored multiple runs in separate files you can only load one file. However if you do multiple runs in one file, it will fill the values in each throttle position and RPM areas. Once that spot is filled with data, the tune is optimized then you load it. You can then save that tune and do another smart tune sessions starting with that new map and continue to fine tune. The module will also only hold a set amount of smart tune data before it runs out of space or memory so to speak. As for your other question, I can not answer that. I'd suggest looking at the screamin eagle tuner user guide and info online to see if that is answered.👊✌️👍
I am a subscriber of yours and i like your content. I was curious about when you said the cost of the stage 2. Was that an out the door price, of just the price of the parts?
Thanks for watching, commenting and for being a subscriber. The price I stated is out the door at my local HD dealer. Typically 6 hours labor. I have a chart in the video that gives the full breakdown of parts and labor. You can also go to my other video linked in the description to get all the build details and pricing. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. The cooling fan is not required but if you have the budget it never hurts to keep the engines cooler. If you check out my other video on the Stage 2 linked down in the description I go in detail over the necessary stage 2 components. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Thanks Cody for watching and commenting. The Tuck and Roll is awesome. Great seat especially if you are riding solo. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. In my case, the extended warranty more that paid for itself when I had an issue outside the standard 2 year warranty. So it worked out well in my case. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Check out this long term review of the Harley Davidson Stage 2 upgrade that has been on the 2021 Road Glide Special for over 6,000 miles now. I cover my initial thoughts around doing a Stage 2 upgrade, what components I used on this build, how the bike has performed and a few surprises that I have encountered.
Please like, share, comment and subscribe.
When you do subscribe, leave a comment below stating "I subscribed" so I can reach out and thank you for supporting the channel.
Ride safe and enjoy!
Rick
HDVIBE
I have a 23 Road Glide ST. I went all Sreaming Eagle all the way with the pipes, keeping the stock headpiece. I put the Harley 462 cam along with the Screaming Eagle tappets, cam plate and oil pump. I experienced smoother torque at the low end and at 3500 RPM this bike turns into a rocket all the way to redline. It has been nothing but smiles. Improved sound with a nice lope without excessive sound. I also have the SE Pro Street Tuner along with the SE Smart Tune Pro. My fuel economy went from around 45 to around 42. You are my go-to Harley accessory channel. Keep up the great work>
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I've been contemplating putting the 462 cam in my 2023 ST. Sounds like a great option. Thanks again for the kind words and rise safe. ✌️👊👍
Nice video. I did the same upgrades on my 2017 Ultra 107 and have 30K on the bike with no issues and lots of smiles.
Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
I’m considering a stage 2 upgrade on my 117 maybe even a stage 3 with a big bore kit. Thanks for all you do !
Thanks for watching and commenting. Either option would be great. Thanks for your continued support. 👊👍✌️
I appreciate this video because I’m considering a bigger cam. I too am concerned with the same issues you mentioned. Thanks for the update.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate your continued support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊👍✌️
Done the same upgrade on my 2018 RKS and so happy with the increased power. Done only 2k plus miles on it but so far so good. Thanks for sharing your experience and glad that I made the right choice of investment.
Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE been your subscriber for a while now and always watch your videos! Thank you!
@elcaviteno2523 Thank you. Much appreciated. ✌️👊👍
Great to hear. Love the sound. I’m not changing the cam plate or head pipes but the same cam. Can’t wait …
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm sure you will be happy with that set up. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Great video, I have a 2018 Ultra Classic with the 107 engine. I added the Cobra pro chamber head pipe, SE Oil pump, SE 447 Cam, and Rinehart DBX 45s. The Stage 2 has been an awesome addition to my touring bike. The extra passing power and overall performance has not disappointed. And of course the sound is amazing now. I’m not sure if I will go with a Stage 3 later, but I am definitely very happy with the Stage 2 upgrade and can see myself keeping it for the long haul life of my bike. 👍😁
Thanks for watching and commenting with your experience. Sounds like a great set up. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Thanks for the Info I've been wanting to do a cam,plate,pump just can't make up my mind and want it to still be reliable. Again thanks for you time.
Thanks James for watching and commenting. It's never an easy decision but I'm very pleased with the route I went on the RGS. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
Glad you’re happy with your stage 2,thinking doing the same with my twin cam bike,smart move replacing cam plate,pump,etc..I’d do the same too👍👍
Thanks Darrell for watching and commenting. It's been a great upgrade for sure. Thanks for your continued support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
That 447 cam is what comes in the CVO's and the ST models stock. Not a bad cam! 👍
The 117 St and CVO is actually a 432 cam. So the 447 has a little more thump to it. Thanks Nore for watching and commenting. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
I defiantly get wanting to stay HD due to warranty especially if you got the extended. Other school of thought that says if you’re spending that kind of $, don’t put HD stuff back in there. I pretty much said F my warranty and did a Wood 22XE, S&S 55mm ported manifold, S&S cam plate and oil pump, and 5.5 injectors. 22 Road King Special. Love it, making about 120HP and 130 TQ and same gas mileage. I actually have to downshift a bit more to really get her into her power but I actually like being a bit more involved. She liked high RPM before but she LOVES high RPM’s now. So I’ve changed the way I ride her a bit. I keep her around 3K pretty much all the time to access that power. But I hit the throttle and I forget she weighs 800 lbs.
Thanks for watching and sharing your set up. It sounds awesome. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
seems to sound right to me ;; dyno is a setting only , seat of the pants is what matters ;;;
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You should still get good gas mileage. My stage I was getting 265 a tank. Now with my stage4 128 kit I’m getting 235-240 a tank. You’re going to love that torque
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, I'm getting 45 to 47 mpg on the Stage 2. Better than when stock. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE oh nice. Have a great weekend
@kellybgliding 👍
I'm curious my friend, how much hotter is the engine running compared to the stock motor? I'm assuming it's insanely hot now...
Thanks for watching and commenting. I haven't noticed an increase in heat coming off the engine. After I changed the headpipe and with a proper air fuel mixture the bike is not noticeable hot...I don't notice any heat difference between stock and cammed. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Most excellent. I watched them all
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate your support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
I just subscribed.!!
Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing. I look forward to seeing your comments on other and future videos. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️
I went to a full stage 2 Fueling Camchest on my TC103....Best money i ever spent...It woke my Bike up so much...I think Guys that are worried about losing gas mileage and the Bike being to loud are nitpicking...My advice to them is dont do it if your worried about that....But if you want the most out of your stock engine?,....What are you waiting for?....PS...I just did it in the 1st week in April and i already have 4K on it...
@@bradlozano2571 Thanks for watching and adding to the conversation. They definitely are fun to ride after the upgraded cam. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
The 447 cam is a great choice. I think it's stock on the CVOs? 🤔 Great info, as always.
Thanks Eric for watching and commenting. The 447 is close to the cam in the CVO...the CVO cam is a 432 so pretty much torque. 👊✌️👍
Add the Harley Smart Tune Pro. You’ll go from 12mm to 18mm O2 sensors. I have the same tab performance head pipe. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
Thanks for watching and commenting with your experience on the topic. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE been subscribed on my TV for a long time but not on my iPad. Thanks for the like!
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When you refer to auto tuning, are you using the SMART tune feature using the SE Street Tuner? (I am assuming you still have the narrow band O2 sensors installed).
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes I am referring to smart tune sessions using the narrow band o2 sensors. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️
Not sure whether you can answer this question on the Smart tune option. If I have stored multiple runs when gathering data and select say all the last rides and generate the optimized Smart tune VE data for the front and rear cylinders, how does the algorithm know how to select the best VE values from the multiple files.
The other question relates to whether Smart tune only collects VE data when running in closed loop mode or does it also take into account the VE values when operating in open loop mode? Thank you.
@schachat01 I'll give you the answers that I think I know. If you stored multiple runs in separate files you can only load one file. However if you do multiple runs in one file, it will fill the values in each throttle position and RPM areas. Once that spot is filled with data, the tune is optimized then you load it. You can then save that tune and do another smart tune sessions starting with that new map and continue to fine tune. The module will also only hold a set amount of smart tune data before it runs out of space or memory so to speak. As for your other question, I can not answer that. I'd suggest looking at the screamin eagle tuner user guide and info online to see if that is answered.👊✌️👍
I am a subscriber of yours and i like your content. I was curious about when you said the cost of the stage 2. Was that an out the door price, of just the price of the parts?
Thanks for watching, commenting and for being a subscriber. The price I stated is out the door at my local HD dealer. Typically 6 hours labor. I have a chart in the video that gives the full breakdown of parts and labor. You can also go to my other video linked in the description to get all the build details and pricing. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
When stage 2 is installed does it require a cooling fan?
Thanks for watching and commenting. The cooling fan is not required but if you have the budget it never hurts to keep the engines cooler. If you check out my other video on the Stage 2 linked down in the description I go in detail over the necessary stage 2 components. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Apprecite you telling us the cost of the products you use/have. Some youtubers dont
Thanks Scott for watching and commenting. I appreciate your support. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
hows the saddlemen tuck and roll seat? looking for a seat for myself when wife doesnt ride with me lol
Thanks Cody for watching and commenting. The Tuck and Roll is awesome. Great seat especially if you are riding solo. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE well guess may have to purchase the seat then for looks as well when the wife isn't riding
@CodyMcDonald89 👍
CR 485 cam ???😊
Thanks for watching and commenting. That is a great cam as well...big lift...lots of thump. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
The CR 480 MT and goodies woke up my RKS to 133 torque with a slight decrease in mpg. Definitely worth the $. As always great content
@TheGoducks3 Thanks for watching and sharing your experience on the topic. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
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another extended warranty sucker
Thanks for watching and commenting. In my case, the extended warranty more that paid for itself when I had an issue outside the standard 2 year warranty. So it worked out well in my case. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍